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		<title>By: Hale</title>
		<link>http://www.thegatesofdawn.ca/wordpress/posts/2008/01/16/god-dammit-i-hate-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-49981</link>
		<dc:creator>Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do they do that, used forged from addresses that way. I had the same thing happen to me awhile back, and it was really frustrating, annoying, and totally reprehensible. I got the bounces, but how about all those people who actually got the emails from &quot;me,&quot; but not from &quot;me.&quot; That&#039;s even worse. Now there are folks out there who think I&#039;m the spammer. And there ain&#039;t nothing I can do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do they do that, used forged from addresses that way. I had the same thing happen to me awhile back, and it was really frustrating, annoying, and totally reprehensible. I got the bounces, but how about all those people who actually got the emails from &#8220;me,&#8221; but not from &#8220;me.&#8221; That&#8217;s even worse. Now there are folks out there who think I&#8217;m the spammer. And there ain&#8217;t nothing I can do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to my world.  As the primary email admin for a relatively large company, this is a problem I have to cope with an an *almost* daily basis... and I say &quot;almost&quot; only because we employ a high-end spam filter that often can be left alone to its own devices.

So yeah... I wouldn&#039;t mind a few minutes alone in a closed room with a known spammer and a stockpile of tinned meat. (Death by Spam sounds appropriate to me.)

As just a bit of trivia... there&#039;s an interesting distinction between the &quot;Spammer&quot; - the one who orchestrates the process and the &quot;Spammer&quot; who actually sends the email.  The latter is, funny enough, quite innocent and oblivious.  (Although perhaps should also be beaten non-fatally about the head with a cooked spam for a few minutes.)  I speak of all the morons out there with compromised windows boxes.  Most spam these days comes from the army of &quot;zombied&quot; boxes which are out there - compromise machines that silently wait until they&#039;re told to send the next spam.  And the programs behind it are just choosing random &quot;From&quot; addresses.  I&#039;m sure these low-lifes are sharing those lists so you&#039;ll continue to have the pleasure of the bounces.  Imagine being the captain at the helm for *several* such domains.  I filter the stuff.  If the originating MTA is not ours, and it&#039;s a Non-Delivery Notification (NDN) I throw it off to a date-named folder that is rotated out of existence pretty regularly.  I seldom want/need to look at it.  It&#039;s the best I can do.  :/

I hope that helps.  And let me know if you ever attain that power.  I want to *watch* (and photograph) you snapping your fingers.  It&#039;ll make my job a bunch easier and FAR simpler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to my world.  As the primary email admin for a relatively large company, this is a problem I have to cope with an an *almost* daily basis&#8230; and I say &#8220;almost&#8221; only because we employ a high-end spam filter that often can be left alone to its own devices.</p>
<p>So yeah&#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t mind a few minutes alone in a closed room with a known spammer and a stockpile of tinned meat. (Death by Spam sounds appropriate to me.)</p>
<p>As just a bit of trivia&#8230; there&#8217;s an interesting distinction between the &#8220;Spammer&#8221; &#8211; the one who orchestrates the process and the &#8220;Spammer&#8221; who actually sends the email.  The latter is, funny enough, quite innocent and oblivious.  (Although perhaps should also be beaten non-fatally about the head with a cooked spam for a few minutes.)  I speak of all the morons out there with compromised windows boxes.  Most spam these days comes from the army of &#8220;zombied&#8221; boxes which are out there &#8211; compromise machines that silently wait until they&#8217;re told to send the next spam.  And the programs behind it are just choosing random &#8220;From&#8221; addresses.  I&#8217;m sure these low-lifes are sharing those lists so you&#8217;ll continue to have the pleasure of the bounces.  Imagine being the captain at the helm for *several* such domains.  I filter the stuff.  If the originating MTA is not ours, and it&#8217;s a Non-Delivery Notification (NDN) I throw it off to a date-named folder that is rotated out of existence pretty regularly.  I seldom want/need to look at it.  It&#8217;s the best I can do.  :/</p>
<p>I hope that helps.  And let me know if you ever attain that power.  I want to *watch* (and photograph) you snapping your fingers.  It&#8217;ll make my job a bunch easier and FAR simpler.</p>
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